MWEG Active at NIH Paylines & Resources (& update to How the NIH Can Help You Get Funded)

While I have not added new full-length posts to the main blog in years, I continue to actively answer questions and encourage discussion at NIH Paylines & Resources (where I also update NIH paylines as they are posted) and Discussion: All Things NSF. I encourage everyone to monitor posts here and chime in with intel, tips, and personal experience as you are able. Everyone’s participation is what makes the site valuable (even those who ask questions – probably lots of lurkers eagerly waiting for an answer to the same query), which I greatly appreciate!

You can search archives of past questions and answers, including those for Discussion: NIH Scores-Paylines-Policy-Peer Review,  where I have stopped allowing questions so as to consolidate them all in NIH Paylines & Resources, and I am pulling out timelines that folks post listing dates from submission through Notice of Award to help others anticipate the time frame of NIH grant processing.

Please check NIH Grant Application-Award Timelines. You cannot post your timeline there – just search the existing messages – I will update the page with timelines posted in NIH Paylines & Resources comments.

Also … I am (still) supposed to be updating How the NIH Can Help You Get Funded, so please post as comments here what you found most helpful and/or what you would like to see in a book that serves as a reference guide to the NIH funding process. Thanks!


  1. newinvestigator said

    Hi Writedit, Thank you so much for this blog! Gives me a lot of information. I have a question on buying equipment with NIH R01 grant. NIH guidelines say that permission is required by NIH only if you purchase equipment over $25K. I need a piece of equipment in around $20K. Can I go ahead and buy it or inform NIH and get permission? My budget is modular. Thank you!

    • writedit said

      You should be okay – you institution grant administrators can comment better on your specific situation (& you can confirm with your GMS). The cap is a recognition of the cost of routine lab purchases.


  2. Karl said

    Hi Writedit, Great blog! I imagine that there is no great answer and that I have to simply wait; however, any thoughts on a impact score of 28 for a NIH brain initiative R01?

    • writedit said

      Please note that the discussion of individual queries takes place on the NIH Paylines & Resources or Discussion: NIH Scores … page. Brain Initiative awards are based on both score and programmatic interests, but your score should get their attention for consideration. Funding will depend on whether they already have similar projects in their portfolio and if you are filling a gap needed to tackle one of their priority areas. When you have your summary statement, you can check in with your PO for next steps (rebuttal, resubmission, sit tight).

  3. lbellumkonda said

    Hello Writedit, I have been focusing on clinical care for the past 10 years and have recently found my interest in research. I was wondering if you could comment my eligibility to get a K award if I collaborated with some of the senior scientist at my institute. I am an Associate professor and wonder if that would be an impediment to apply for K awards. Thank you in advance for your time.

    • writedit said

      The usual K mechanism for mid-career faculty is the K24, but this is for established scientists, to give them time and project support for mentoring others. I would suggest you contact your CTSA-funded center or institute. While their slots are reserved for internal candidates, if your department chair is supportive, they should be happy to enroll you in their clinical scientist training program (coursework) and link you with a great mentoring team. If you don’t have prior research experience, you are probably best starting as a co-investigator on a colleague’s project, but if your chair is supportive, a K award would protect time for you to do concentrated training and start your own independent project. I assume you would be interested in patient-focused clinical research (K23) versus a mix of bench and clinical research (K08), though neither have a restriction on how far out you are from your terminal training. After talking with your CTSA and mentors, then you would want to work with the appropriate K23 PO at your institute of choice for help developing the application (and to ensure your target IC will support your application – though I think they would be excited to help launch a new clinician scientist). I am very excited to hear of your decision to get more involved in research – we need more physician investigators!

      • lbellumkonda said

        Thank you so much. This is very helpful.

  4. Grace Liu said

    Dear writedit,

    Really love this forum! I have an R01 just scored at impact 26 and percentile 12%, and realized NIA’s interim pay line is 8% (not NEI and AD-related) 😦 I would like to know if you have any insight into the potential final pay line for NIA in 2021. I knew NIA’s interim pay line was 9% and finally increased to 11% in 2020. Is it possible to go up to 12% in 2021? I will appreciate any response.


    • writedit said

      You’ll want to communicate with your PO about next steps after you have your summary statement, but I think you will be looking at an A1 submission in March, at least as insurance, since I doubt NIA will know its final paylines before then (FY21 budget will be delayed until after the inauguration and then takes 6-8 weeks to reach the ICs). I think paylines will stay about the same and a few could actually drop a point if there is an increased number of competitive applications due to the pandemic. Again, your PO will give the best guidance (once your summary statement is in hand), but you’ll probably want to plan for another submission (which is frustrating at the 12th percentile).

      • Grace said

        Thank you very much, writedit!! It is really frustrating. This is the worst scenario that I thought of before I received the score. I have contracted the PO and hope he can reply to me soon.

  5. AC said

    Thank you very much, Writedit, for maintaining this amazing resource for the community which has kept me company throughout my application process. Please see my timeline below (non-early stage investigator).

    A1 submission
    02/15/2021 Received NOA.
    02/04/2021 Award prepared: refer questions to Grants Management Specialist.
    11/10/2020 Pending administrative review. Refer any questions to Program Official or Grants Management Specialist.
    *No official status update, but received an e-mail stating AC concurs with SRG and plans to fund proposal. However, letter does not take place of official Notice of Grant Award.
    09/10/2020 Council review completed.
    06/15/2020 Scientific Review Group review completed: Council review pending. Refer any questions to Program Official.
    03/16/2020 Scientific Review Group review pending. Refer any questions to the Scientific Review Administrator.
    03/05/2020 Application entered into system

    A0 submission
    01/30/2020 Council review completed.
    10/16/2019 Scientific Review Group review completed: Council review pending. Refer any questions to Program Official.
    06/28/2019 Scientific Review Group review pending. Refer any questions to the Scientific Review Administrator.
    06/05/2019 Application entered into system

    • writedit said

      Congratulations and thank you for sharing your timeline! Best wishes for success with your research.

RSS feed for comments on this post · TrackBack URI

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: